Catalonia Referendum: Lada Ray Multi-Dimensional Q&A (with Crimea, Scotland, Kurdistan parallels)

In WEBINAR 4: LADA RAY PERIOR 8 PREDICTIONS I was asked whether there will be a defining event during this GREAT EARTH SHIFT, and when. I replied that we are in it — inside THE event, that is. Multi-dimensionally, the Earth Shift isn’t an event, or a series of events, as we are led to believe by the sensationalist 3D MSM, and the so-called alternative press. It is a continuing PROCESS, resulting in a major change. Every country and every individual will continue experiencing this process in their own way, but make no mistake: we all experience it. The difference is those who are conscious, awake and understand my Earth Shift and Multi-Dimensional theories, will know that a crucial event is coming because they have been tuned into the process of the change from the start. Those who are ignorant and asleep will perceive the resulting event as a shocking catastrophe they never saw coming.

In the same WEBINAR 4 I predicted that a wave of secession movements, and conversely, unionist movements, will continue and intensify, and borders of a number of countries will change in the next 5 to 20 years. Some international clubs, country blocks and alliances will disappear or will have to go through a complete overhaul, while some new alliances and new geopolitical affinity groups will either appear or be reborn. They will gain momentum and expand.

It was also explained in WEBINAR 4 that violence, terrorism, the rise of the military and disproportioned use of police force are all trademarks of Period 8. They will continue and intensify till this Period runs its course. Much more was explained in previous Webinar 2 and Webinar 3.

For an example of terrorism and senseless violence look at the latest terrorist attack in Las Vegas, the largest ever such attack on US soil.

Catalonia Independence Referendum: Lada Ray’s Multi-Dimensional Q&A

(with Crimea, Scotland, Kurdistan referendum parallels)

Why Catalans voted 90%+ in favor of seceding?

The results of the Catalan Independence Referendum are as follows:

Location	Catalonia, Spain
Date	1 October 2017
Results Votes  %  Yes 2,020,144 91.96%  No 176,565 8.04% Valid votes 2,196,709 97.10% Invalid or blank votes 65,715 2.9% Total votes 2,262,424 100.00% Registered voters/turnout 5,313,564 42.58%

Per Catalan authorities, the crackdown and violent actions of Spanish police resulted in 700,000+ votes stolen. Guardia Civil was seen in many cases violently yanking ballot boxes full of votes out of the hands of people who tried to protect them. In other cases documented by international observers, the polling stations were simply blocked by Spanish police and people were unable to vote. The turnout would have been greater if such actions didn’t occur and the free vote did take place.

It was anticipated that the referendum result would be in favor of the Catalan independence. However, such high percentage of favorable votes surprised most. Spanish government caused the vote for independence to skyrocket as a protest against their heavy-handed approach. The more pressure Madrid put on Barcelona, the more the undecided Catalans leaned towards independence.

The result of the Catalan referendum compares to the Crimea and Donbass referendum results, where on average 90%-95% voted to secede from Ukraine. Similar results were achieved in 2006 in Pridnestrovie (95% voted to re-unite with Russia, after prior secession from Moldova) and in Gagauzia autonomy (in 2014 over 90% Gagauzs voted to secede from Moldova IF Moldova stopped being a sovereign state and was absorbed by Romania).

The result of the Catalan referendum is binding, which means Catalonia should begin making steps towards secession from Spain. But not so fast. It won’t be so simple…

I have discussed my prediction on what will happen after Catalan referendum, how it will evolve and how the EU and the world would be influenced by this event, in WEBINAR 5: LADA RAY LIVE VIDEO Q&A. 

Why was there so much violence displayed by Spanish police / Guardia Civil? And related question: why was Madrid government so callous and unyielding about the referendum? 

Ruptly video from Barcelona during Catalan Referendum Oct 1, 2017 – violent police actions (graphic!):

As explained in WEBINAR 4: LADA RAY PERIOR 8 PREDICTIONS, the government interference and armed violence is one of the traits of Period 8. Therefore, we have to expect continued, and in some cases (sorry to say), escalating violence in those countries that chose a violent way.

The Great Earth Shift is changing much of what we used to perceive as a given. Some countries and some governments simply can’t cope with the fast change.

The Spanish Rajoy government is a typical neo-liberal globalist entity. When it has perceived that the familiar and comfortable structures around it have begun disintegrating, the thin surface veneer of ‘democracy’ has fallen off and it lashed out in the most ungracious way.

During this Earth Shift we will continue observing how certain globalist entities and certain ‘leaders’ start losing it, unable to cope with the changes, which they, in their warped worldview, didn’t see coming. Others will forget about the pretend ‘democracy’ they supposedly were a part of, and will tighten their grip on power over their population.

The clearest example of being unable to cope with changes and losing it, with subsequent tightened grip on power without any consideration for the rights nor lives of the people, is Ukraine, including Ukraine’s 2014 coup and subsequent ukro-nazi Kiev junta in power, and an all-out war against the people of Donbass.

Why wasn’t there violence during Scottish referendum?

But what about the truly democratic and developed Western European countries, you may ask. What about UK’s amicable behavior during Scottish independence referendum? After all, London hasn’t lashed out at Scotland; no national guard nor violence was observed.

First, let me just say that London’s measured behavior during Scottish referendum was admirable and mature and it stood in stark contrast to the behavior of Kiev, Madrid or Ankara in similar circumstances. However, that said, there is a very good reason for that — make it three reasons!

1. UK, in its many years of experience of manipulating the world into wars, without actually truly participating in them, and many years of colonizing other countries where regimes were installed and quietly manipulated behind the scenes, has developed a very good system of quiet persuasion and geopolitical/economic manipulation. They are a lot more adept at how to do it behind the scenes and without violence.

2. Between us, I seriously believe that London knew the Scottish independence bid would fail, and therefore, they really could afford to play it cool. They knew the vote would be divided. All that was needed to be done was to apply some very subtle pressure here and there.

Catalonia is completely different that way. It was clear that the majority would vote for secession, and Spanish government simply saw no way of persuading Catalans otherwise. As a consequence, they simply lost it.

3. After the Catalan vote, there is renewed talk of a new Scottish independence referendum. Even if it succeeds, UK will continue trying to subtly delay and influence the situation in such a way as to make the secession a very remote prospect, or to make it legitimate on paper only. Just observe what is happening with Brexit — how seemingly slow it is, and who knows if it really is happening or not. Exactly as I predicted in Special Predictions Video ESR 12 THE FUTURE OF THE EU (BREXIT, TTIP/TPP & EU revolts). 

That said, London may lose it too, should Scotland challenge it too openly. So far it’s not happening, and I don’t see it as high probability as Scottish politicians are treading very softly. For the sake of all UK citizens, I hope Ukraine and Catalonia lessons have been learned and violence can be avoided.

I can tell you that the vast majority of Russians, looking across the border and observing Ukraine madness, have determined that they choose the opposite: peace, unity and stability.

Another interesting detail is that Scotland is also quietly negotiating with the EU to be accepted as a member instead of UK, which technically could favor the secession vote. This is yet another reason my prediction from ESR12 THE FUTURE OF THE EU that it will take years for Brexit to take place, if at all, is being confirmed. London will attempt to delay its rift with EU in order to keep Scotland on board.

Why Spanish government refuses to recognize the Catalan referendum

The Spanish government can’t possibly recognize the Catalan vote. It would mean losing the richest and best-to-do part of the country, 20-25% of Spanish economy, 1/3 of all foreign investments and 1/3 of all exports.

Catalans believe they are getting an unfair shake when they get less back from Madrid than they contribute to the country’s economy. Without Barcelona, Spain will simply become a much diminished and significantly poorer state.

Meanwhile, economically speaking, Catalonia may also lose out from independence. EU already warned that independent Catalonia may not be accepted as a separate member of the EU, since Spain — an EU member — would never agree to that. Without this, Catalonia won’t enjoy free trade perks other EU members do, thus increasing the cost of exports.

But not all is measured in terms of money and economy. As I predicted since 2014, in Period 8 and during the Great Earth Shift, economy is secondary to geopolitics and social change.

As discussed in WEBINAR 4, this is the time of secessions, referendums and changing borders. Period 8 and the Earth Shift will see to it: everything not fastened well will be swept away, anything that’s rotting will be demolished, and new, better, stronger and healthier structures will emerge.

A few facts: Catalonia was the first to ban the cruel and inhumane bull fights, while the rest of Spain is lagging. Spain is a monarchy, while Catalans are much more progressive and they want to be a republic. Catalans have a history of standing up against regimes. During the 1930s Spanish Civil War Barcelona was the last hold-out of the Spanish Republic, while the rest of Spain succumbed to Franco.

Why did local police and firemen try to protect the voters? 

When local Catalan police and firemen realized that Spanish Guardia Civil was attacking people and not letting them cast their vote, many of them stood with their people, protecting them from the armed Spanish police. As a result some of the local police and firemen were injured, others were seen on camera conflicted, crying and hiding their faces while Catalans lauded and thanked them.

This is understandable. These civil servants gave an oath to the Madrid government, however their conscience didn’t allow them to stand idle when civilians were being attacked and prevented from casting their democratic vote. For many of them it was a huge emotional drama and a huge inner conflict.

In Catalonia we just saw a demo of a rift between two sides of the armed forces, civil servants and police, which we may observe in other countries as well as the Earth Shift unfolds. Some local civil servants may choose to defend the population from central government’s aggression, therefore fulfilling their true duty, while others will choose to obey undemocratic orders and attack unarmed civilians. This rift is bound to occur in those countries that have chosen a violent way.

Mass celebrations in Barcelona, following referendum:

Striking parallels with Crimea, Donbass and Ukraine

We have seen this unfold in Ukraine since 2014 in the most striking manner. In the case of Ukraine the divisions were very clear from the start. Many of those in the armed forces and police who were against the junta resigned or took the side of the people. Many had been killed as a result. Some defected and joined Donbass self-defence.

Crimea demonstrated an even more decisive and striking division. Out of 20,000 Ukrainian troops stationed on the Crimean peninsula as of March 2014, only 10% or 2,000 chose to move back to Ukraine after Crimean independence referendum, followed by Crimea re-joining Russia. The rest chose to join the Russian Army and Navy and stay in Crimea, demonstrating very clearly where their allegiances really were. That included the supreme commander of the Ukraine Navy and almost all higher officers. Moreover, some of those who initially moved back to Ukraine with their families, want to return to Crimea.

Of course, the Crimean situation is absolutely unique in world history: during the entire referendum and the passage of control over to Russia there was no violence and no fire was exchanged between two armies. All Ukrainian military who wanted to move back to Ukraine were given free passage, and even allowed to take with them their tanks, ships and jets. In truth, Russians simply didn’t want all that junk. 😉

Notably, there were only two shots fired, which killed one person on the Ukraine army side and a Cossack volunteer on the Russian side. The shots were fired by a sniper, who, per color revolution manual, was attempting to create violence and mutual blame between sides. That attempt failed as the peaceful referendum and orderly withdrawal of Ukraine troops continued.

In Barcelona we saw what would have happen in Crimea, if Russian Army and Navy didn’t ensure that the democratic right of citizens to cast their vote was protected. But multiply that by thousands. There are reports that in Catalonia 2 or 3 people died, and over 840 were injured as a result of Guardia Civil crackdown. In Crimea the result would have been incomparably more devastating, if Russia didn’t step in on time. We are talking thousands of deaths — and that’s before Kiev would have begun shelling civilians from heavy artillery. The war against Donbass civilians is proving what Kiev junta is capable of.

 What about the Kurdish independence referendum?

The Kurdish referendum is yet another example of the same. There are at least 40 million Kurds in the Middle East. They are divided between 4 countries and are considered the largest ethnicity without a country on the planet.

As expected, during the September 25, 2017 referendum the vast majority of Kurds voted for independence from Iraq. However, practically speaking this is impossible, short of an all-out civil war. At this time, no great powers are interested in a new civil war in Iraq. What is likely to happen is that Kurds in all four countries will use the results of the referendum to bargain for better deals with respective central governments. Syria’s Assad, with the urging by Russia, already announced that he would be willing to grant Syrian Kurds a broad autonomy. Turkish Erdogan is so far unyielding. Iraq government will definitely be negotiating with the Kurds. As a result, Kurds will live in a de-facto separate state, keeping all or most their oil profits, but within Iraq. This will be the case for at least several more years. After that, more changes are coming and the world map will be very different from what we’ve known.

Also, an interesting thing to note about the Kurdish referendum is this: what on the surface seems like a secession movement is in fact a unionist movement! In this case, the four divided parts of the Kurdish population strive to reunite. In that, the Kurdish referendum is completely different from Catalonia or Scottish referendums. At the same time, it bears a striking similarity to the secession-unionist movements of Crimea (the most successful so far), Donbass, Pridnestrovie, S. Ossetia, Abkhazia and Gagauzia. In all cases, these parts of ex-Soviet republics wanted to secede in order to re-unite with Russia.

We have touched upon the nature of secession and unionist movements during Earth Shift Webinar 5: LADA RAY LIVE VIDEO Q&A.

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